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March 26, 2004
WAR: The Little Flame, Three Years Later

Yet again I've been too busy at work to blog, but I had to mention that today is the three-year anniversary of an event that probably did more than any other to convince me of the impossibility of civilized people treating the Israelis and Palestinians as just two sides of a morally neutral "cycle of violence." Yes, the Palestinians have their grievances, and yes, children die on both sides. But a society that honors and celebrates a sniper blowing the head off of a ten-month-old girl is simply not ready to walk amongst the community of nations.

Posted by Baseball Crank at 12:44 PM | War 2004 | Comments (8) | TrackBack (0)
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I'm new to your blog, which I enjoy for its baseball content, but I am more and more amazed by your ridiculous and relatively racist political postings.

A horrible story, of course. But to take it out of the context of what Hebron means -- WHERE it is and WHY it is -- suggests knowing propoganda or ignorant racism. Where exactly is Hebron? How many Palestinians have been pushed from their homes or died at the hands of Hebron settlers?

Writing "a society that honors and celebrates..." this crime is also not true, as you know, or should know.

Quoting Seth Lipksy and other right-wing ideologues only serves to reinforce the bizarre logic of the failed occupation. Whether or not you like it, Palestinians are real live human beings, and have a real live society, that eventually is going to be represented in statehood or as part of a binational, secular Isreal. Get used to it and help smooth the process along by acknowledging that.

Posted by: Adam at March 26, 2004 4:11 PM

Adam-

You make some valid points, but the killing of a child from a snipers nest is nothing but cold blooded murder.

I object to most aspects of the settlement policy but both sides, as the Crank points out, are not on equal moral footing.

Israel didn't choose this "occupation" it was thrust upon them by the War of 1967. I reject a binational state, and hope for a two solution. Hopefully the Palestinians can get some decent leadership (ie one that would agree to the generous terms of an aggrement like Olso)

Posted by: andrew R at March 26, 2004 4:30 PM

Adam-

No one is saying that the Palestinians are 100% wrong and that the Israelis are 100% right, but if you canít see that Islamic extremists are on the wrong side of the morality issue then you have a seriously defective moral compass.

Posted by: Richard at March 26, 2004 4:49 PM

No Palestinians have been pushed from their homes. Israelis in Hebron bought their homes. Of course, many died in Hebron because they were Jewish. Learn the history of Hebron.
The Palestinian society does honor terrorists, naming streets after suicide bombers for instance.

Posted by: jeff whitney at March 26, 2004 5:29 PM

Ah, how easy it is to throw around that "r" word . . . when terrorists tried to kill me on September 11, Palestinians danced in the streets.

Look: it may well be that many Palestinians privately deplore these barbarities, but they live in a gangster state where dissenters get lynched. The present Palestinian polity is deeply committed to wanton murder.

Personally, I'm much in favor of an independent Palestinian state. As, I suspect, are most Israelis. But the precondition must be a government that gives the Palestinians a stake in their own future, not just more authority for Arafatistan.

Posted by: The Crank at March 26, 2004 10:30 PM

When you generalize about a group of people based on an incident, or even many incidents, that's racism. That's how it works. Its a racist post. Again you simplify in your response... so all 4.5 million Palestinians were dancing in the streets, huh?

Furthermore, in focusing on such cases to prove some racist stereotype along the lines of your post, rather than the fact that a cross-section of Palestinian intellectuals and leaders called this week for abandoning armed struggle in favor of non-violent resistance is lost in the misleading headlines. The tabloid press and pro-Israeli publications evidently being more concerned with preserving the racist image they have collectively nurtured of Palestinians in order to deny
them self-determination, than examining the real human tragedy of the occupation.

At this point, I'll let it go and focus on baseball, at least until the next ridiculous post.

Posted by: Adam at March 27, 2004 5:39 PM

Sorry, I don't regard handing over power to Arafat and his gang as "self-determination." Statements by Palestinian intellectuals to such effect are good news, but I'll take them seriously as reflective of the political situation when there's some sign that they have either popular support or influence on government. The bottom line is, the Palestinian government and the heads of terror groups like Hamas are steeped in blood, and there's no dealing with them or treating them as moral equals to Israel's democratically elected leaders.

Posted by: The Crank at March 27, 2004 9:41 PM

"When you generalize about a group of people based on an incident, or even many incidents, that's racism"...according to Adam.

How many incidents are enough for the "generalization" to be valid? Surely you wouldn't ignore ALL evidence that doesn't support your ignore-the-killings mindset...or would you?

Posted by: John Salmon at March 28, 2004 1:21 AM
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