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August 23, 2005
BASEBALL: The Other Champs

I was discussing this over the weekend with family, and decided to do a little digging: what player or players won the most World Serieses without winning one with the Hated Yankees? I looked at all the non-Yankee teams to win the World Series, and came up with a list (I excluded guys like Babe Ruth and Wally Schang who won multiple championships away from the Bronx and won with the Yankees). Of course, the list was complicated by the number of guys who appeared in a season for a World Championship team as opposed to the guys who were actually part of the team in the postseason. The record for most non-Yankee World Championship teams played for in a season without playing for one with the Yankees is five. Two trivia questions, and then the answers after the break:

1. Name the three four players to play in a season for five World Championship teams without winning one with the Yankees. Each of these guys appeared in four of the five World Serieses. Hint: they were all (UPDATE: three of the four were) teammates on a team that won three Championships.

2. Name the three players to appear in the World Series for four non-Yankee World Champions since 1920. Hint: one appeared four times for the same team, one three times for the same team, and one twice each for two teams.

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1. Eddie Collins, Stuffy McInnis, and Jack Barry, 3/4 of Connie Mack's "$100,000 Infield" that won the World Series in 1910, 1911 and 1913. (UPDATE: A fourth, pointed out by an astute reader, is Dal Maxvill, who played for the 1964 & 1967 Cards and the 1972-74 A's and appeared in the 1964, 1967 and 1974 World Serieses). Barry (a Holy Cross grad and later longtime baseball coach at the Cross) also played 2B regularly for the 1915 and 1916 Red Sox, but missed the 1916 Series (he also played for the Sox in 1917 and 1919, so he just missed a sixth ring). McInnis was the everyday 1B for the 1918 Red Sox and appeared in the series in 1925 as a pinch hitter for the Pirates, but was a teenage backup who didn't get into the 1910 Series. Collins played for the 1917 White Sox and played 9 games as a 42-year-old player-coach for the 1929 A's, but didn't appear in the Series that year.

2. Jim Gilliam, Gene Tenace, and Frankie Frisch. Gilliam played for all four of Walter Alston's Dodger teams to win the Series, in 1955, 1959, 1963 and 1965. Tenace played for the 1972-74 A's and the 1982 Cardinals. And Frisch played for the 1921-22 Giants, 1931 and 1934 Cardinals, and managed the 1934 team.

Here's the rest of the list, excluding guys who just got three rings in short succession for the A's in the 1970s, the Dodgers in the 1960s, or the A's or Bosox in the teens:

4 Series:
Harry Hooper
Larry Gardner
Amos Strunk

4 Teams/3 Series:
Sandy Koufax
Johnny Podres
Pinch Thomas
UPDATED: Jack Morris

4 Teams/1 Series:
Heine Wagner

3 Series:
Pete Rose
Mickey Cochrane
Johnny Evers
Jim Palmer
Tris Speaker
Steve Carlton
Jack Morris
Dave Stewart
Lonnie Smith
Devon White
Mike Timlin
Clem Labine
Flint Rhem

3 Teams/2 Series:
Al Leiter
Tim McCarver
Pepper Martin
Mule Haas
Gus Mancuso
Dolf Luque
Ken Griffey Sr.*
George Foster*

* - Was playing on a different team by season's end.

3 Teams/1 Series
Smoky Joe Wood
Bill Shores

Posted by Baseball Crank at 9:16 AM | Baseball 2005 | Comments (6) | TrackBack (0)
Comments

Frankie Frisch, Jim Gilliam, Jack Morris

Posted by: jim at August 23, 2005 12:51 PM

Have had a difficult time posting this. Anyone else? Got a questionable content answer. Had to limit my answer to the names. We'll see if this works:

Frisch with the Cards and Giants, Gilliam with the Dodgers (LA and Brooklyn), Morris with Tigers, Twins and Jays.

Posted by: jim at August 23, 2005 12:54 PM

Yeah, server's been a little fuzzy this morning.

Posted by: The Crank at August 23, 2005 1:17 PM

My query's returning different data than yours. I'm pretty sure that you're wrong on at least Jack Morris ('84 Tigers, '91 Twins, '92 and '93 Blue Jays.)

Posted by: Lyford at August 23, 2005 1:47 PM

I've fixed that now - Morris was indeed on all four teams, but did not pitch in the 1993 World Series.

Posted by: The Crank at August 23, 2005 1:59 PM

Dal Maxvill played for the 64 & 67 Cardinals and the 72, 73 & 74 A's.

He appeared in the WS in 64, 67 and 74 and the ALCS in 72. In 1973 the A's sold him to the Pirates in midseason.

Posted by: Gord Broseker at August 24, 2005 1:17 PM
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