Remember when there was a hint of scandal and a politician was even slightly implicated, they disappeared. They weren't on TV, radio, quoted in teh paper or seen in public. Oh for the good old days.

oh come on. first of all, this is old, old news and reid has already addressed it. second, lobbying meetings are not illegal. third, abramoff pleaded guilty to defrauding the indian tribes. he was screwing them over. they were not in cahoots with abramoff. the CoS malaysia trip was cleared by the senate ethics committee.

where's the scandal here, again? reid provided no service to abramoff in exchange for money. reid did nothing in response to any direction from abramoff. the tribes sent less money to reid after abramoff took over working for them anyway. There's no story here crank.

how does it show that reid was in bed with abramoff again? because reid helped an abramoff client, one that abramoff was screwing over?

hmm. face it, its a republican scandal. stop defending crooks and clean up the republican side of the aisle. if there's corrupt democrats, they need to go too, but this isn't evidence of it.

Ooo! Ooo! Does that mean that Howard Dean was lying when he said that Democrats hadn't done anything for Abramoff's clients?

BTW, I'm afraid that some of the previous commentors need to read the whole article. Reid contacts with the Abramoff organization and their interactions at least raise the appearance of impropriety.

i read it. I saw no impropriety there. Are we assuming that Abramoff was hired as a lobbyist, and then NEVER did his actual job? No! He probably did many legal functions in his job position. Sometimes, his firm lobbied democrats. somtimes, republicans. That is legal and not the issue. Jack Abramoff directed nearly $3M from his clients in legal political contributions to both parties. Jack Abramoff charged nearly $100M in consulting fees to his clients and funnelled it all to Republicans. That's the issue!

additionally reid didnt take the abramoff position on any votes. so obviously abramoff wasn't paying reid to do anything. no quid pro quo.

from elsewhere, but highly relevant:
Abramoff is a convicted criminal. He pled guilty, in Federal courts, to the following:

* Defrauding the Indian Tribes
* Tax evasion
* Conspiracy to bribe a Congressman (Bob Ney) with material gifts and lavish trips
* Bank fraud in the purchase of the SunCruz casino deal

Now, looking at this article, how is Harry Reid implicated in any of these charges? He wasn't.

Kevin, I see you picked up the MyDD talking points.

Just one request: apply the same test to any Republican before complaining about their ties to Abramoff. That's precisely my point: Reid's ties to Abramoff have raised the bar for GOP scandals, thus complicating Democrats' ability to paint with a broad brush.

One thing that Ralph Nader ahd right. They are really all the same. That includes Ralphie himself.

Anyone here ever see the Eddie Mruphy movie, The Distinguished Gentleman? Very funny, all about congressional con games, and sadly, very believable.

So the Democrats are just as dishonest at the Republicans? Is that what you are trying to say?

Can you show us an instance where Abramoff EVER directed money to a Democrat, Crank? Seriously. He was a hard-core Republican operative working to cement the Republican strangle-hold on Congress and the lobbying world. Abramoff's whole mission was a scorched earth policy towards Democrats.

The fact that some of his clients might have hedged and given a small fraction of money to Democrats on their own does not in any way put Reid "every bit as much in bed with Abramoff", or, frankly, any other Democrat.

In particular, on the Marianas topic, Reid not only didn't vote for Abramoff's position, he co-sponsored against it.

Abramoff ripped off the Indian Tribes worse than anyone else. He blew through hundreds of millions fo their dollars and insulted them in emails to others while he was doing it.

So if these vicitimized clients also gave money to Democrats, what's the relavence?

Meanwhile, Abramoff traces his roots as a loyal Republican back to 1980, when he took not a small amount of credit for delivering Massachusetts to Reagan.

To paint this as a bi-partisan scandal is a JOKE!!

I agree, this really isn't that big a deal, however.......if the name in the article was changed from 'Reid' to "Frist', Hastert' or 'Hatch' does anybody doubt this story then becomes much bigger?
If Senator Reid wasn't such a sanctimonius prig about all of this then this story just wouldn't resonate with so much of us.....but he is so it does; even if we don't find it dispositive as to actual wrongdoing.

You will note, of course, that at least in the case of the MArianis Island, Reid was a co-sponsor of the bill Abramoff was trying to defeat and Reid voted for the bill.