May 7, 2009
WAR/POLITICS: Democratic Spin on GTMO Stupid Even By Standards of Democratic Spin
Goldfarb notes this hilarious attempt to claim that Republicans opposed to moving detainees from Guantanamo into their districts are - wait for it - insulting America's corrections officers:
ON GUANTANAMO, GOP DISPARAGES MEN AND WOMEN WHO KEEP OUR COMMUNITIES SAFE
Why do Republicans think that Americans can't do their jobs?
Today, John Boehner and the Republican House leadership are introducing legislation to keep Guantanamo detainees from being transferred to facilities in the United States. They claim that this serves American security. But the reality is that our criminal justice system has a long history of holding hardened terrorists successfully, including the perpetrator of the first World Trade Center attacks, numerous 9/11 conspirators, the Shoe Bomber and Timothy McVeigh. The men and women who serve their country by working at these facilities are ready and eager to do their jobs - and they have the confidence of the communities that depend economically on prison facilities. But John Boehner, Mitch McConnell and other Republicans in Congress continue to claim that the men and women who run our prisons and help keep America safe can't do their jobs.
Let's review the varieties of stupid here.
1. This statement assumes that 100% of the detainees will continue to remain locked up, and of course if you believe that, why not just improve the prison they are in? In fact, the whole point of this exercise is to release some detainees entirely and send others into the criminal justice system, where they may be acquitted or have cases dropped against them, in many cases because of how evidence was gathered against them under wartime or battlefield conditions.
2. The Democrats presume to speak for all prison guards as being thrilled to take these guys on. I am guessing that's not the case. Ask Louis Pepe. Ask why our allies are balking at taking them. Ask the people of Alexandria, Virginia what additional precautions had to be taken just to hold one of them.
3. I love the line about "communities that depend economically on prison facilities" - leave it to the Democrats to look at holding jihadists as a jobs program.
4. Does anybody but Democratic politicians actually believe that jihadists are no more dangerous than your usual criminal? Hmmm, we have prisoners who are willing to engage in suicide attacks, believe they will go to eternal paradise if they die killing infidels, specifically hate the U.S. government, and are connected to international organizations with money and weapons. You don't think they are a greater security risk than your typical prisoner, even in maximum security? Really?
Hey Crank isn't funny how none of the regulars from the other side are silent regarding the documents coming out showing what the Dems knew about the "torture" and when they knew it. Crickets, man, crickets.
Are we talking about jahidists, or suspected jahidists? I can call you a jihadist (or genius) all day long, it doesn't make you one.
dch, No crickets here.
My prayer for the day (year/ lifetime):
Please, please, please let the USA return to "rule of law" and let this torture scandal bring down both the Republican and Democratic parties, so they may be relegated to the scrapheap of history. I promise to never ask for anything ever again.
Finally re: "torture". Checkout Greenwald's take today on the NYT obituary of an Air force pilot shot down over China and "tortured".
I see. Osama bin laden must have told Pelosi about his plans to attack NYC. Thus exonerating him of wrongdoing. That would explain why Bush wasn't concerned about him.
Glad that's cleared up.
Your usual "garbage". How about you directly comment about one of your liberals pals knowing about the Bush plans and approving them?
For Lee (and others too stupid to read between the lines),
As an accomplice to torture, Pelosi should go to jail along with the other criminals (Yoo, Bybee, Cheney, Rummy, W, Rice, etc). Having them ALL in the Hague, is a dream come true.
The point of my post is, just because the other team (I know you think it's all a game) has been briefed, doesn't exonerate you of the charges when you commit a (war) crime.
If you weren't so busy contorting logic and using semantics to justify and excuse torture, you might have figured that out.
Also, the Democratic Party isn't MY team. First we bury the GOP under 60 feet of concrete and steel for screwing the country, then we turn to the Dems and say "you're next".
How's that for a fucking comment?
My my I seem to have hit a nerve. Hey while we are looking at it maybe we should go into the rendition program, started before 9/11, under the Clinton Admin and Project Echelon and Project Carnivore the programs that recorded every electonic email, telephone call, wire transfer, etc int ehUS and World, again which were started under the Clinton Admin before 9/11.
Now you get it, dch!!!!
Let's pull back the curtain on all this crap. "State secrets" isn't used to keep our enemies from knowing what we're doing. It's used to cover up crimes and protect criminals, and always has been.
Shine the light, grab the cockroaches while they scatter, and throw them into the roach motel (jail).
Once we bury the 2 BS parties that have been pushed on us, US citizens might get some representation.
We've been waiting for you, dch---and I, for one, am sincerely glad you've made it.