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April 8, 2010
BASEBALL: The Path to Cooperstown: Third Base

If you're wondering what I was working on lately besides the division previews, my fifth annual Hall of Fame column is up today at The Hardball Times, and it's on the third basemen.

UPDATE: I'll have to post the full tables here when I get a chance, the plate appearance figures are crucial to the column, and it looks like the editors at THT removed them to save space. They took out the steals, caught stealing and GIDP data, too. Urk.

Charts below the fold:

The main table - I did have to shorten a few abbreviations, like the "Prime" and "Other" seasons, to fit the page:

PrOPlayerAgeSeasPASBCSDPAvgSlgObpRateG-3BIn?
115Eddie Mathews21-3110.566835380.2850.5570.390148.5150YES
93Wade Boggs25-339.0070523160.3380.4810.425144.1151YES
140Mike Schmidt24-3713.66656127100.2670.5720.375140.4141YES
132Chipper Jones24-3613.00621103150.3030.5290.390128.1110Act
117George Brett22-3210.64604126100.3170.5470.376124.3133YES
111Ron Santo23-3310.9866133170.2800.5070.367123.1155No
83Stan Hack26-337.6371315060.2930.4360.374116.5153No
101Sal Bando25-349.9465754110.2680.4740.366113.9151No
91Ken Boyer25-338.7367285150.2870.4840.349113.5144No
102Bob Elliott25-349.5863640150.2890.4870.366113.2130No
82Scott Rolen22-298.00622114100.2790.5020.362113.0144Act
83Toby Harrah26-337.62654206110.2720.4500.376110.6108No
102Ron Cey26-359.6963223140.2660.4870.354108.9151No
80Ken Caminiti28-357.6060494130.2840.4950.355106.3142No
111Eddie Yost23-3310.496736590.2570.4030.385104.4145No
84Graig Nettles26-337.9465833120.2600.4770.332104.1157No
92Robin Ventura23-318.6062323130.2770.4640.358103.7142No
121Brooks Robinson23-3411.9567622180.2870.4630.330103.4158YES
86Buddy Bell27-347.6563834180.2870.4520.349100.7145No
106Darrell Evans26-359.696298480.2480.4490.355100.0117No
101Bill Madlock23-329.64561168150.3100.4840.36599.2111No
81George Kell23-307.6561054150.3110.4580.35298.2137YES
110Pie Traynor24-3410.466601314150.2900.4440.33197.0151YES
90Troy Glaus23-319.0055963120.2520.4920.35296.7125Act
100Matt Williams24-339.5958643140.2740.5140.31996.1137No
131Buddy Bell23-3512.5962834170.2860.4410.34495.3145No
91Tim Wallach24-328.9963356140.2680.4660.32194.6153No
100Ken Keltner21*319.5762643150.2720.4740.31693.7149No
80Mike Lowell26-337.9961831140.2750.4540.33393.5145Act
112Carney Lansford22-3210.67587177130.2970.4460.34690.7127No
160Graig Nettles25-4015.5958922110.2540.4600.33289.9142No
100Doug DeCinces26-359.6255354160.2650.4830.33389.0131No

The short-prime guys:

PrOPlayerAgeYrsPASBCSDPAvgSlgObpRateG-3BIn?
51Al Rosen26-304.7568076190.2950.5610.374142.6146No
68Alex Rodriguez28-336.00654204150.2920.5490.389139.6145Act
75Ron Santo23-297.0268534160.2890.5300.378137.6160No
50David Wright22-265.00676236150.3040.5020.380128.9155Act
54Sal Bando25-294.9567335130.2810.5000.383128.8157No
59Tony Perez25-295.0167542160.2880.5270.345122.7152YES
50Howard Johnson26-304.98646321060.2630.5270.350119.4122No
71Harlond Clift23-296.716988590.2580.4670.362117.8156No
50Jim Ray Hart22-265.0162133160.2850.5250.350114.1118No
50Whitey Kurowski25-294.8261820130.2860.5190.348111.7144No
51Fred Lindstrom20-244.7367413000.2960.4740.332106.0138YES
70Eric Chavez22-286.9961962120.2670.4790.342101.4144Act
71Aramis Ramirez25-316.9957111160.2840.5030.33997.4133Act
63Richie Hebner21-265.965271280.2900.5030.35493.8126No
60Bill Melton23-285.9655123110.2620.4780.33287.4117No
62Bob Horner20-255.6448122120.2720.5420.32985.8108No

The pre-1920 third basemen:

PrOPlayerAgeYrsPASBCSDPAvgSlgObpRateG-3BIn?
60Levi Meyerle21-261.9668212200.3360.5790.407160.781No
718Cap Anson19-252.36760181000.3260.5110.409158.788YES
64Frank Baker23-285.70667302100.3220.5740.362138.7156YES
71Denny Lyons21-275.9862530000.3150.5320.400132.9115No
63Heinie Groh25-305.52676161900.3010.4810.380123.5142No
141Ezra Sutton20-346.67681171200.2940.4680.357113.7122No
100Ned Williamson21-306.4866735000.2560.4590.361110.493No
60Bill Bradley22-275.3765020000.2960.5020.337109.7151No
80Bill Joyce24-327.7253734000.2690.5020.396106.995No
91Jimmy Collins27-358.1267119000.2830.4790.329105.7153YES
711Deacon White34-404.9165712000.3010.4380.362104.3130No
90John McGraw20-287.6755053000.3060.4410.428104.099YES
70Red Smith22-285.5863515500.2850.4630.348102.5157No
80Heinie Zimmerman24-317.49610201700.3000.5090.327101.5106No
74Tommy Leach24-306.5463227000.2760.4700.32496.2109No
61Art Devlin24-295.7862140000.2740.4210.35893.6151No
102Larry Gardner26-359.31631131500.2800.4450.32390.6152No
Posted by Baseball Crank at 10:15 AM | Baseball 2010 • | Baseball Columns • | Baseball Studies | Comments (2) | TrackBack (0)
Comments

Great article and stats Crank. You are making me reconsider my view on Santo. I remember him and I honestly don't remember him as a great player. Same with Bando. My view of him at the time waas more the guy who held the madhouse together, same with Tony Perez. I was shocked when Perez was voted in. I felt he was kind of a placebo for Rose. Brooks Robinson was the best 3B I remember, including the current crop, but old-timers have told me that Whitey Kurowski was better than Robinson.

If I had to vote today for past players that should be in and current players that will be in I think the list would be short. Probably Santo and Kurowski from the past and A-Rod and Chipper from the current crop. The rest don't deserve consideration. It is to early to tell on David Wright. Was last year what we can expect from him going forward or will he return to his previous form.

Posted by: maddirishman at April 8, 2010 9:45 PM

I think David Wright is still very much on track for the HOF, but of course Scott Rolen looked essentially the same when he was Wright's age.

Posted by: Jerry at April 9, 2010 1:03 PM
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