Drew M at Ace notes that Dick Cheney’s demand that the Obama Administration release all intelligence gathered from the interrogation techniques detailed in the memos it recently released places Obama in a bind:
Will Obama do it and risk people thinking, “maybe this wasn’t such a bad idea after all”. If they don’t do it, then the argument becomes, “there must be something so valuable they can’t talk about it”. Which again means, it worked.
(H/T) If critics of coercive interrogation were honest, of course, they’d welcome the release and the chance to argue that even interrogation methods that get results are not worth the moral lines we have to cross to get there. And in fact, many of us on the conservative side would agree with that in principle; we just disagree on where you draw the line that says that certain forms of coercion constitute torture, and think that, for example, exposing a man to a caterpillar or bouncing him off a fake flexible wall doesn’t get there.
But of course, most of the voices shrieking “torture” not only refuse to define where they draw the line – and denounce anyone who tries, to the point of cheering on prosecutions of lawyers for making the effort – but insist on living in a fantasy world where there are never any tradeoffs. They look at interrogators saying that less coercive methods of questioning are often the best (true), and that individuals acting under coercion or torture may provide false information (also true, but of course true as well of any method of interrogating terrorists or criminals) and conclude from this that coercive techniques never, ever work, never, ever provide useful information, and are always the least effective method.
It’s the cheap, easy way out of a moral debate as old as war itself. Now, if there really is intelligence that’s still too valuable to disclose, just say that and I won’t question it; but otherwise, if you are going to argue that coercive interrogation is 100% ineffective, you should not fear disclosure of its fruits.