Will Obama finally do enough stupid things (a daily occurance) that even the Democrats will give up on him? My gosh this guy is an embarassment!
Yawn. That’s the best you have? I suppose you are all jacked up on your little cabal of Newt, Mitt, Mssr. Paul and presumably the likes of Palin, Bachman and Santorum (seriously?) Say and feel what you like but any election held right now with any of those fools would lead to a landslide. Certainly, 16 months can be full of events of all sorts that can shift the sands of fortune but I doubt the Democrats will be giving up on President Obama any time in the near future.
First, have you read the comments over there? Fool after fool after fool ….
Second, nice to hear it’s all politics for you, Jim – – – whether Obama’s policy is right or not … who cares, right?
First, have you read the comments over there? Fool after fool after fool ….
Second, nice to hear it’s all politics for you, Jim – – – whether Obama’s policy is right or not … who cares, right?
Hmmm, resolution coming in September, courtesy of The Arab League. It won’t accomplish a whole lot, but then again, maybe, just maybe Obama was right. Normally it’s the Palestinians who spit the bit, but this time it was Netanyahu. OK, well and good. Except he had a chance to start making things work more on HIS terms. Not a chance now.
And no, it had nothing to do with Obama’s statement. Check the news over the last year. It was coming anyway.
Let Obama follow his own advice to Israel. That is, accept his enemy’s demands in the hope the fellow will then make peace. I feel certain that if Obama follows Boehner’s lead on the budget everything will work out for the long run, and the Repubs will accept minor cuts in “non-essential” programs while immediately agreeing to Obamacare.
When I negotiate the purchase of a house or car I find that agreeing to the seller’s price brings about an immediate reduction in his demands. Yeah, that works out real well.
BD57,
Lee wondered if Dems would be dumping Obama (no doubt somewhat tongue in cheek) and I simply pointed out that they aren’t going to ditch a sitting President that, at this moment, would boat race any of the GOP’s meager offerings. Not politics, simply factual. On the other side of the coin I will take Obama’s level of wrong (many things he does, has done I disagree with) over what the GOP’s frightening level of nuttiness would be offered up from the Oval Office.
Jim, you’ve hit on the essential difference between Democrats and Republicans. Democrats are messy, and willing to state the wrongs that are done, hopefully to make things better next time. Republicans are simply not permitted to criticize each other, it’s a real Thou Shalt Not (what can I say, they are a fundamentalist biblical species); paired with that is a true inability to be introspective. Therefore, any idea thrown out is a brilliant one, because nobody ever tells them it’s a bad idea; no corrections can be made to what is birthed as perfect (there I go again bringing birth and abortion into it).
So Republicans love to shout how they are the adult party, the grown ups. Of course, it’s only children and, even worse, bit mouthed teenagers who need to shout that out. Real adults simply know it. As I wrote, I don’t like the Ryan plan, but it’s a starting point of what will be a difficult subject. Fine. It’s not cast in stone you GOPers, no matter what you say. Because the grown ups now have to pass on it.
This article from Zacharia pretty much sums up why I don’t think Obama’s speech was any kind of mistake. The quote from a much younger Netanyahu is telling:
“Here is the young Bibi, 33 years ago, at a forum in Cambridge, Massachusetts: ‘I think the United States should oppose the creation of a Palestinian state for several reasons, the first one being that it is unjust to demand the creation of a 22nd Arab state and a second Palestinian state at the expense of the only Jewish state. There is no right to establish the second one on my doorstep, which will threaten my existence. There is no right whatsoever.'” https://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/29/fareeds-take-netanyahu-doesnt-want-a-deal-with-the-palestinians/?hpt=Sbin
Off-topic, but here’s one guy hoping the Republicans are stupid enough to not raise the debt ceiling. It would be hilarious. Corporate America will abandon the GOP quicker than W abandoned his “compassionate conservative” schtick when named President by his Papa’s cronies on the Supreme Court. Their base would disappear overnight, leaving the GOP with nothing but the bigots they court to get elected and the gullible who still don’t realize they’re being lied to.
C’mon Congressional Republicans, do it. I hear it will piss off liberals.
Will Obama finally do enough stupid things (a daily occurance) that even the Democrats will give up on him? My gosh this guy is an embarassment!
Yawn. That’s the best you have? I suppose you are all jacked up on your little cabal of Newt, Mitt, Mssr. Paul and presumably the likes of Palin, Bachman and Santorum (seriously?) Say and feel what you like but any election held right now with any of those fools would lead to a landslide. Certainly, 16 months can be full of events of all sorts that can shift the sands of fortune but I doubt the Democrats will be giving up on President Obama any time in the near future.
First, have you read the comments over there? Fool after fool after fool ….
Second, nice to hear it’s all politics for you, Jim – – – whether Obama’s policy is right or not … who cares, right?
First, have you read the comments over there? Fool after fool after fool ….
Second, nice to hear it’s all politics for you, Jim – – – whether Obama’s policy is right or not … who cares, right?
Hmmm, resolution coming in September, courtesy of The Arab League. It won’t accomplish a whole lot, but then again, maybe, just maybe Obama was right. Normally it’s the Palestinians who spit the bit, but this time it was Netanyahu. OK, well and good. Except he had a chance to start making things work more on HIS terms. Not a chance now.
And no, it had nothing to do with Obama’s statement. Check the news over the last year. It was coming anyway.
Let Obama follow his own advice to Israel. That is, accept his enemy’s demands in the hope the fellow will then make peace. I feel certain that if Obama follows Boehner’s lead on the budget everything will work out for the long run, and the Repubs will accept minor cuts in “non-essential” programs while immediately agreeing to Obamacare.
When I negotiate the purchase of a house or car I find that agreeing to the seller’s price brings about an immediate reduction in his demands. Yeah, that works out real well.
BD57,
Lee wondered if Dems would be dumping Obama (no doubt somewhat tongue in cheek) and I simply pointed out that they aren’t going to ditch a sitting President that, at this moment, would boat race any of the GOP’s meager offerings. Not politics, simply factual. On the other side of the coin I will take Obama’s level of wrong (many things he does, has done I disagree with) over what the GOP’s frightening level of nuttiness would be offered up from the Oval Office.
Jim, you’ve hit on the essential difference between Democrats and Republicans. Democrats are messy, and willing to state the wrongs that are done, hopefully to make things better next time. Republicans are simply not permitted to criticize each other, it’s a real Thou Shalt Not (what can I say, they are a fundamentalist biblical species); paired with that is a true inability to be introspective. Therefore, any idea thrown out is a brilliant one, because nobody ever tells them it’s a bad idea; no corrections can be made to what is birthed as perfect (there I go again bringing birth and abortion into it).
So Republicans love to shout how they are the adult party, the grown ups. Of course, it’s only children and, even worse, bit mouthed teenagers who need to shout that out. Real adults simply know it. As I wrote, I don’t like the Ryan plan, but it’s a starting point of what will be a difficult subject. Fine. It’s not cast in stone you GOPers, no matter what you say. Because the grown ups now have to pass on it.
This article from Zacharia pretty much sums up why I don’t think Obama’s speech was any kind of mistake. The quote from a much younger Netanyahu is telling:
“Here is the young Bibi, 33 years ago, at a forum in Cambridge, Massachusetts: ‘I think the United States should oppose the creation of a Palestinian state for several reasons, the first one being that it is unjust to demand the creation of a 22nd Arab state and a second Palestinian state at the expense of the only Jewish state. There is no right to establish the second one on my doorstep, which will threaten my existence. There is no right whatsoever.'”
https://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/29/fareeds-take-netanyahu-doesnt-want-a-deal-with-the-palestinians/?hpt=Sbin
Off-topic, but here’s one guy hoping the Republicans are stupid enough to not raise the debt ceiling. It would be hilarious. Corporate America will abandon the GOP quicker than W abandoned his “compassionate conservative” schtick when named President by his Papa’s cronies on the Supreme Court. Their base would disappear overnight, leaving the GOP with nothing but the bigots they court to get elected and the gullible who still don’t realize they’re being lied to.
C’mon Congressional Republicans, do it. I hear it will piss off liberals.