The Schneid

Adam Rubin looks at some data, in relatively small samples (we’re talking 50-60 at bats in some cases, although the selected items all point the same way) suggesting that Mets relievers and some of their starters were markedly less successful with Brian Schneider catching than Ramon Castro. (I got the link from Bill James Online; James is skeptical of how dramatic the data is). The difference seems mostly to be in home runs allowed, as no homers were hit off Heilman, Wagner, Sanchez or Feliciano with Castro catching, and markedly fewer off Pedro and Santana. Of course, one has to consider alternative explanations: for example, Castro started only 4 games in September, when several key relievers were tired and wearing out, and Castro played more of his games at pitcher-friendly Shea (22 starts at home, 18 on the road). And Keith Woolner, who has studied the issue with deep math, is unconvinced that catcher effects on ERA are anything more than random chance (more here). That said, it’s a question that merits further examination, since Schneider’s defensive value is the main reason he has a job.
So, with that in mind, let’s look at the overall numbers for ERAs with Schneider catching and not catching, based on the Hardball Times numbers for Catching ERA over the past five seasons:

Year IP-Schneider ERA-Schneider IP-Others ERA-Others
2004 1114 3.86 333 5.89
2005 927.66 3.88 530.33 3.85
2006 990.33 5.28 446 4.48
2007 1051.33 4.79 395.33 4.01
2008 881 4.11 583.33 4.03
Total 4964.32 4.39 2288 4.34

Looks to me like there’s not a significant effect teamwide in 2008, and even less of one over the long term, although individual seasons seem to show Schneider as a huge net positive in 2004 and a large negative one in 2006-07. Granted, the opposition-slugging data in the article may be more probative for the relievers than ERA, but even so, where are the OBPs? This suggests some cherry-picking of the data here, and honestly given that the source of the data is guys who work for agents, I have to wonder if they have an agenda in passing along the selection they are sending Rubin.

4 thoughts on “The Schneid”

  1. Hey Crank and others, I just got an idea for the people that routinely visit and post on this log-how about we get a free Roto league online and do an online draft and compete against each other this year? Anyone up for this?

  2. I don’t think there is any disagreement that Castro is a better catcher than Schneider, at bat and at squat. However, Castro simply can’t catch more than 70 or so games a season without breaking down.

  3. dch has a great idea, but divisions should be divided by political party affiliation.

  4. Remind me in March, I’ll think about it but I already have three leagues, which is about my limit. Of course, if you fellas want to start up a league without my participation I’m happy to publicize it.

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